For this blog, I recently emailed the Montgomery County Public Schools and requested an interview with Superintendent Joshua Starr. My hope was to sit and chat with Dr. Starr about achievement gaps. He seems to talk endlessly about this issue with all sorts of people; so why not me?
I got kicked to the curb. My request for an interview was turned down by MCPS spokesman Dana Tofig.
Well, I think I came up with some really great interview questions. The questions appear below, without responses.
I stand ready at any time to sit and chat with Starr.
Question No. 1:
Your children will attend Walt Whitman High School. When Advanced Placement exam results were last reported (for the Class of 2012), Whitman AP exam-takers who took AP Psychology, on average, scored a “4.” Forty-one percent of the Whitman AP Psychology exam-takers scored a “5”—the highest AP score possible.
Across the county, Psychology exam scores for Wheaton High School tell a different story. At Wheaton, on average, AP Psychology exam-takers scored a “1”—the lowest AP score possible. Only 2 percent of the AP exam-takers at Wheaton scored a “5.”
First, how do you interpret these differences? And second, what is your plan to alter these outcomes—increase the AP exam performance for minority high school students?
Question No. 2:
Let’s stick with the performance gaps between Whitman and Wheaton high schools. In 2011, Wheaton seniors who received FARMS scored 429 points, on average, on the SAT critical reading subtest. Black seniors at Wheaton scored, on average, 421 points on the same subtest. Across the county, white Whitman
seniors scored, on average, 623 points. During the 12-year tenure of MCPS
Superintendent Jerry Weast these SAT performance gaps never closed (although,
Weast is on the public record saying they did close).
First, why do you think they never closed? And second, what is your strategy for closing such performance gaps?
Question No. 3:
Let’s fast forward to 2020: You're in your third term as MCPS superintendent. The above performance gaps remain—you have not closed this specific performance gap or others.
When you factor such a reality into the mix, how would you then grade your overall MCPS performance as superintendent? And how would explain the grade?
Question No. 4:
I’m on the record saying that MCPS still experiences huge performance gaps for black students in our high schools because our black students are not taking complete advantage of specific “high-end” challenging academic programs. For
example, the number of black students participating in our International Baccalaureate programs is embarrassingly low (in my opinion).
What are your thoughts on this? Why aren’t our high schools enrolling more black students in their IB programs?
Before answering the next question, Dr. Starr should read a book chapter I wrote about the "Talented Tenth." (Note to readers: If you send me an email at hatmbrown@yahoo.com, I will send you a copy of this book chapter.)
Question No. 5:
Now, I believe that one significant factor that drives low black IB participation is
parental apathy. I actually believe that black parents are not pushing their children hard enough academically.
What are your thoughts on this? What can MCPS do to change this?
Question No. 6:
If Bill Gates called you tomorrow and said, “Dr. Starr I’m giving $1 billion dollars to MCPS to spend on gap-closing efforts and programs at the high school
level, however, MCPS can only spend the money on three specific things,” what three things would you pick and why?
Theresa Defino
2:30 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
So Dana had the questions you list here when he said no? What was his reason?
Joseph Hawkins
8:00 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Theresa, yes, MCPS received the questions as they appear in the blog. What was Tofig's response--why did he say no? Basically, he said Starr is on the record addressing the gap issue in lot of forums and that another interview simply is not needed.
Janis
10:12 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Did you offer Superintendent Starr wine? He attends events with parents where alcohol is served. If he does that, why is he opposed to a real interview with serious questions?
Domenico Montanaro
8:51 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
These are great questions. There's a lot of talk about how great Montgomery County schools scores are. And that's true, but as I'm learning, having moved to Silver Spring/Wheaton area, there are two Montgomery Counties. Starr seems to be smart and well-intentioned, but the county needs to seriously address how it bridges the East-West divide. There's a lot of touting the things the county does right, but that appears to have meant ignoring problems like Glen Haven Elementary -- and it's not just a "population" issue. This is a leadership issue. Too many parents in my neighborhood have either pulled or won't send their kids to Glen Haven because of the principal. They'd rather have their children in immersion programs. That's pretty desperate. This shouldn't be the case when Oakland Terrace, two miles away and Sligo Elementary (4 miles away) are much higher performing.
Janis
10:47 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
The Parents' Coalition has heard complaints about Glen Haven ES for years. For a neighborhood so close to the new location of Walter Reed, that means military families will not move there. They look for housing elsewhere. How does MCPS help the Montgomery County economy when they do not address school problems?
Tobin Smith
4:32 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
so Bill Gates gives 1 billion-
1. do they use the money to bring the lowest scoring kids closer to the higher scoring kids
2. do they try to equitably apply it across the board, more teachers per student
3. do they try to increase parental assistance in getting more active in the kids's lives
4. do they remove all obstacles from learning, like hungry bellys
5. do they incent the kids with full participation in class (no disruption, no chatter)
6. do they take the higher scoring kids to an even higher level
7. do they fund tutor classes for any student seeking additional learning assistance
Janis
3:14 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
"They" would do none of that. Public schools in the USA are all about perks for administrators. The money would be used to buy out of town trips to Florida, it would be used to buy untested tech toys from no-bid vendors that throw lavish parties, it would be used for dinners and lunches and conferences. No child would ever see this money in their classroom. Public education in this country is all about padding the resumes of the administrators and setting them up for their next job or consulting gig.
Joseph Hawkins
7:23 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Well, if the Gates Foundation did give a billion with no-strings attached, but you could only pick three things then I guess you could 1) spend it eliminating hunger (that's a damn good goal); 2) purchase or fund unlimited tutoring (after all, folks in Bethesda and Potomac seem to have such a resource); and 3) you fill-in the blank here with one more thing ___________________________________.
Theresa Defino
7:26 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
I think whether Starr agreed to an in-person interview or not, you've sent in your questions and MCPS can write back answers. You should not simply be told "No."
Joseph Hawkins
7:32 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Good point Theresa, but at this point in time, I'm not expecting any official answers. Do you think it would be wise for Starr or even his mouth-piece Dana Tofig to publicly say, "Black parents are apathetic?"
Valerie Mayer
10:06 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
If apathy is one reason for the gap persisting (in any group), how does that get tackled? Throwing more money at a problem that is a parental attitude isn't going to work is it? Somehow you'd have to keep that attitude from being adopted by the kids when they are very young and through their school years.
Janis
3:12 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
@ Valirie First, offer ALL children a free public education as guaranteed by the Maryland Constitution. MCPS does not do that. That is NOT the parents' fault!
Stop blaming parents for a public school system that discriminates. It doesn't matter what the parents have done/do. It is the job of the public school system to educate ALL children. Excluding certain children is not doing their job. We pay our taxes for all children to be given a free public education, let's see that happen.
Gburgatheist
5:29 am on Friday, March 8, 2013
@Janis, the education is free, but it should be the parents responsibility to provide.
1. pencils, paper, notebooks, rulers, calculators
2. a child that is well nourished
3. a child that has enough sleep
4. accountability for a child who refuses/disrupts classrooms.
Students are only in the school setting 10% of the time. The rest is out of the school setting. How do you make the parents accountable? That is the issue all school systems are facing.
Janis
11:05 am on Friday, May 17, 2013
Wrong. The education is not free. Hasn't been for years. Students in MCPS are constantly charged for attending public school classes in violation of Maryland law. The Parents' Coalition has been documenting this reality for over 5 years.
Stick to the facts: http://parentscoalitionmc.com/Guide_to_Fees.html
Jack
1:17 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Because we failed the parent we should now blame them and fail their children? Perhaps exploit the parent is appropriate for how we got to this point.
Blame is not the solution but if we are to educate all children we will have to go back and both educate as well as include their parents.
jack
Gburgatheist
4:57 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
@Jack, and who is going to pay for that? Teachers are underpaid and overworked. Do you want them to go out to the community and start teaching parents now as well?
Buzz Beeler
9:10 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Accountability is the lesson plan or in this case not part of the curriculum.
Online addict
11:05 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
"Let’s fast forward to 2020: You're in your third term as MCPS superintendent. The above performance gaps remain—you have not closed this specific performance gap or others."
This question alone begs the question, do you want to interview the person or chastise him for what he may or may not do in the next seven years? Way too negative a stance for a bi-partisan interviewer.
Second bad question:
"If Bill Gates called you tomorrow and said, “Dr. Starr I’m giving $1 billion dollars to MCPS to spend on gap-closing efforts and programs at the high school."
If the Gates foundation made a donation it would be in the $10-50 million dollar range and when they make any donation, it comes with myriad stipulations. Not sure that is always a win-win scenario, better to look at the KIPP schools for your anwers
Finally, I would revoke your interview because you appear to have an agenda and lack the credibility of a true journalist. I would hazard to guess you have what you consider to be the proper answer to all your questions, so why would anyone need to meet with you?
Buzz Beeler
2:03 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Online addict, I do have some creditability as a journalist and you make some valid points.
http://www.buzzbeeler.com/articles
Although I believe that having the creditability of a journalist in today's media means little depending on your slant (right vs. left) I have chosen blogging because of the freedom to express a valid opinion on my own.
Editors control journalism like FOX vs. MSNBC. Many major news stories are broken by bloggers or blog sites, i.e. The Daily Caller and the Hufftington Post.
It's like asking a drunk how many drinks they had. In thirty nine years the standard answer was - just two.
Blogging is a little like police work, you build your case and let the defense make the choice to put their client on the stand and most the time the guilty will not testify.
As in the blog I just did I chose not to interview those involved because number one I didn't think they would talk to me and number two they have their own agenda to protect and if you base your story on them responding you won't have one.
Let the facts do the talking.
http://dundalk.patch.com/blog_posts/closing-of-eastwood-elementary-may-involve-conflict-of-interest
As a retired cop I chose to build a case based on hard facts and evidence, not their use of the spin factor.
Online addict
2:34 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Buzz
Tthe achievement gap is an important and should be addressed, but brow-beating Starr for not meeting with him, Joe Hawkins takes a bully-pulpit and does nothing to advance the issue. I would think a seasoned journalist could approach Starr with strong questions and look to get feedback that addresses the issue and work from that information to correct the problems.
Looking for the Superintendent to fix this issue, which according to Hawkins goes back to Jerry Weast and possibly before that, and given that information assumes the current Super has no intention of doing anything in the next 7 years, leaves me to wonder what he is accomplishing?
He switches from IB to AP programs which are quite different. If you are clever you could say that Whitman has a lower % of Black students in IB programs than Wheaton.
SO to summarize, no ideas given, he throws out statistics, and then throws out his own reasons (no supporting studies or statistics) for why he believes there is a gap. He blames parental apathy (where does that notion come from?). And money?
The Gates money dream fails on every level, no matter how much Gates give, it is an amount that would then be reduced from the County's education budget, unless Gates exceeds the current 2B dollar education budget for Montgomery county, a highly unlikely scenario.
I would rather see a blog that posits 2-3 ideas -- be it better parenting or better teachers\facitlies.
Janis
11:09 am on Friday, May 17, 2013
No worries. Superintendent Starr only does interviews with select reporters who will only write stories from MCPS Press Releases. Now, that's not biased at all, right? Haha. Starr only does interviews when he knows how the interview will come out. But, you don't want him to do interviews with anyone with an opposing view? Your wish has been granted.
Joseph Hawkins
11:17 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
Online addict: Duh, anyone who reads me quickly comes to the observation and conclusion that I have an agenda. I have never hidden my agenda: make MCPS address its historical achievement gaps! And I have never pretended to be a journalist. I don't want to put my fellow bloggers down, but frankly, anyone who can string paragraphs together can blog. For me it is the perfect way to get stuff off your chest.
Online addict
11:33 am on Monday, March 11, 2013
My apologies, I assume you really wanted to have a sit-down with Starr, should put a "sarcasm" alert in your article. You did a great job of getting things off your chest, but in sports terminology, it was fourth down and you lost fifteen yards on the play. You have now turned the ball over and the real debate is no longer in your court. But if that is what blogging is all about, enjoy.
Joseph Hawkins
3:28 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Online addict points out that I'm void of ideas. I will confess that there are some blog pieces without suggestions, but for the most part, I've probably offered more ideas over the past 25 years on how to close achievement gaps than most have. I'm probably one of the first people in this County to go on the record saying that MCPS should abolish tracking and I'm firmly on the record as saying pay teacher more and my idea of pushing more high school students of color into IB programs goes back to the late 1990's. But thanks--Mr. Online addict--you're given me an idea for a future blog: list out every single idea or suggestions I've ever made for correcting the achievement gaps.
Buzz Beeler
3:30 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Online, a seasoned journalist or should I say hundreds of well fried news hounds got nowhere in Fast and Furious and the Benghazi hearings. Mum was the word and still is.
Sean Hannity from| Fox News laid out a time that connected the dots and spoke with no one in the WH on the Benghazi issue. A moment to moment account of the attack. He did not enter the spin zone and didn't have to. You let the facts do the talking.
Now they may think some of us are stupid, but the body count and the military people they spoke with paint a different picture.
Any successful writer, no matter what their background is should always write in drafts and have them reviewed by other professionals before publishing.
One of the best movies on journalism and how it is done successfully is "All the Presidents Men." Required reading before one puts pen to paper.
I agree with you on the issue of the interview. I would have used an e-mail for a response or lack thereof but that would not have been the focal point of the article.
I would have also stated the facts as opposed to asking for them. Your argument becomes more forceful when you present them and then refer (documentation by e-mail) they had no answers. That way you remove the agenda issue and the onus now becomes their silence..
Janis
3:50 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Not sure what planet you on on, but there are no seasoned journalists covering Montgomery County Public Schools. There are some young adults fresh out of college who readily proclaim they are not "investigative journalists". They are usually tasked with multiple articles per day, and some hold together entire publications. Hence, there is no "staff". There is no massive news room to review education stories relating to 1 public school system.
If you are interested in this topic, why don't you do a MPIA request for the e-mails from the MCPS Public Relations department to local reporters? Take a look at how the MCPS PR department "handles" news stories.
You also might like a list of the private press conferences held by the Superintendent. Those are the ones where only the "approved" reporters are invited. No general press conferences here in Montgomery County.
Buzz Beeler
3:56 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Janis, great point. I use PIA's all the time. Even sued Balto. Co. one time over a story I did.
I think that if Joe takes a look at the "War on Poverty," and correlates those issues he'll find they are applicable across the country and that battle left no dollar, excuse me, stone unturned.